On Sunday Alan Duncan got some stick from the Mail and its readers about his comments to a prison conference in Oxford. He is quoted as saying that the phrase “prison works” was ‘repulsively simplistic’, the article doesn't explain the context of this remark so the criticism of him may well be grossly unfair.
I don't pretend to be an expert on prisons or the criminal justice system but my work on Project Daedalus has given me an insight into the youth justice system. Reading the article made me ask myself if I believed that prison works and I have to agree with Alan Duncan that the question is far too simplistic for a yes or no answer.
The levels of repeat offending and the fact that we incarcerate a higher proportion of our population than any other European country shows that in terms of rehabilitation and deterrent prison doesn't work.
Prisons are designed to take criminals out of circulation and help protect the public. While someone is in prison they cannot commit crimes, cannot rob people, break into houses or mug someone, on that level prison does work. But people don't stay in prison forever, indeed with the current government's attitude towards sentencing and early release they don't stay in prison for very long so on this measure we can only count a partial success.
Prisons have an invaluable place in terms of punishment of offenders and protection of society, but they currently fail badly in terms of deterrent and rehabilitation. They are also very expensive.
It costs many thousands of pounds per month to keep someone in prison, during that time we also have their undivided attention. If we don't use that period of incarceration to get them out of the criminal habit we will have wasted a lot of money and unique opportunity.
So, do prisons work? Not at the moment, but they could and an incoming Conservative government needs to make sure that they do.
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You have hit the nail on the head when you talk about what is their objective. Yes they shoudl absolutely aim to reform and educate - but for me the PRIMARY aim is the protection of the public and when criminals are behind bars, they are incapable of offending, and because of that yes they do work. They stop further crimes being committed.. ergo early release due can lead to extra crimes being committed.
Let compare prison with say tagging. Both in prison and being tagged we need to work on reform and rehabilitation - but tagging would allow a criminal to keep offending. Prison would stop that happening. So again - for stopping crime while criminals are in prison (when compared to alternatives) they work.
The central problem in British justice is we have no cemented view of what our underlying theory of punishment is.
Your piece above looks at rehabilitation and also simple crime prevention but there are also themes of revenge and desert theory which we cannot ignore.
There are also some philosophical issues about whether rehabilitation is a morally fair thing to attempt. Should we interfere with how people wish to behave or is that not the function of the state?
Yet these are not the issues we discuss in the media nor what you discuss here; and this is for the simple reason that following the increase in western crime in almost every nation in the 70s penal policy became political. And as a result it has been a football with terms such as 'tough on crime and the causes of crime' taking precedence over true evidence based policy making.
The simple solution - move it out of front line politics and place it in the hands of experts.
And re: prison, there is a lot of evidence that says if the sentence is less than a year it doesn't work and that if it is 2-4 it can be effective if the return to society is mapped out. But what do we do to deal with crime? We ramp up sentences to 10 years or introduce short prison terms for minor offences.
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I don't think it's actually true to say that when someone is in jail they can't commit a crime. A large amount of criminal activity takes place in prison.
Drug taking is the most common illegal activity which seems to be tolerated to some extent. Also very serious crimes take place most notably assaults, murders and rapes.
It's one of the reasons why prisons *can be* very poor at rehabilitation.
Archer's only positive contribution to society, his books about his time on prison are worth reading on this subject.
He us frustrated by the lack of educational opportunities for Many prisoners, apart from learning how to commit crime more efficiently once out. Another way to help protect ourselves is by attempting to give these people other options aside from harming us. We have to accept that some will reoffend, they are criminals.
As you point out, James, we have the highest crime rate and prison population in Europe but we also have the most lenient penal code by far. My dog can see the correlation.
We need to incarcerate offenders for much longer periods so that the loss of liberty becomes a deterrent rather than an occupational hazzard.
Longer sentencing = less crime = lower prison population. This must be worth trying as the existing situation, as you admit, does not work. Tough on crime, tough on a significant cause of crime (lenient sentencing) and a vote winner methinks.
Our crime rate is amongst the highest in Europe yet we have less criminals caught and imprisoned per crime than any european country.When people such as yourself state we have so many people in prison they always ignore the crime rate.
As to crime in prison that's because it means a quite life for the wardens. The prisoners are doped up and quite. Within an closed environment such as a prison, crimeparticularly drugs could almost be elimnated. However this would take some hard work and diligence not to mention the loss of opportunities for profit by wardens (estimated at 10% of wardens by the prison service).
Look at America where apart from murders, the crime rate is lower than our for all other categories. They incarcerate and if you can't learn then after three convictions you are in for a long time.
Also the crime rate for those doing community service is almost 60%. Thousands of people impacted which wouldn't have happened if the sentence had been a decent stretch in prison.
It is not simplistic to claim that prison does not work, what on earth was Michael Howard thinking to claim that "prison works"?
Given that prison does not work, I do hope that that is not used as an excuse not to send expenses fiddling MPs to prison!
I agree entirely with James.
I am aware that my saying that doesn't really add a huge amount to the debate.
As a default political position it serves me well though.
I agree with the initial comment"prison does work" even if offenders are locked up for a short time the public are protected for that period of time. Kevin
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